Shermer has to do this to show that going to court was his last option, this was a great get out of jail free card and he ignored it. Especially as the C&D had the Carrie Poppy edit to show he wasn't being totally truthful aka lying.Pappa wrote:Wow.... after reading that it's crazy that PZ hasn't complied with the demands to remove the post and post a retraction. What a fool.rachelbean wrote:The full cease and desist letter can be read here:
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We should be MOST skeptical of ideas we like because we are sufficiently skeptical of ideas that we don't like. Penn Jillette.
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Is a blog the kind of property to which monetary value can be attributed? Why would Sherm demand ownership of that?Pappa wrote:I doubt that would happen, but it would be funny, especially if he spammed it with YouTube vids of PZ being a dick and his various faux pas.Seth wrote:Wouldn't it just be exquisite irony if Shermer ends up owning PZ's blog?Pappa wrote:I sent Shermer an email a few days ago, urging him to sue PZ to within an inch of his life.
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Re: PZ accuses Shermer of rape.
If PZ can't pay the civil judgment, Shermer can attach the blog, which I believe generates income. He could also make transfer of the blog a condition of settlement.Svartalf wrote:Is a blog the kind of property to which monetary value can be attributed? Why would Sherm demand ownership of that?Pappa wrote:I doubt that would happen, but it would be funny, especially if he spammed it with YouTube vids of PZ being a dick and his various faux pas.Seth wrote:Wouldn't it just be exquisite irony if Shermer ends up owning PZ's blog?Pappa wrote:I sent Shermer an email a few days ago, urging him to sue PZ to within an inch of his life.
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Would the blog remain a source of revenue if transferred? People go there to read Peezy's tripe, and I doubt a court order or settlement could fore him to remain an effective blogger if the money goes to sherm.
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Re: PZ accuses Shermer of rape.
Svartalf wrote:Would the blog remain a source of revenue if transferred? People go there to read Peezy's tripe, and I doubt a court order or settlement could fore him to remain an effective blogger if the money goes to sherm.
I doubt if it is a huge amount of revenue anyway, but every penny generated since he posted the allegations can be transferee to Shermer by the court, as if the allegations are found to be defamatory, Myers will not be allowed to profit from it.
There's a good argument that neither will the blog site.
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I thought it was somewhat ironic that the ads were for Chinese bints.
PZ pimping third world brides seemed a bit out of sorts.
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Oh, and I checked a few minutes ago to see if Pustulous Zit Myers had complied with the C&D demand yet. (He hasn't.) The ad in the top left corner said something like this: Why men leave women: 10 fatal mistakes that women make.HomerJay wrote:I thought it was somewhat ironic that the ads were for Chinese bints.
PZ pimping third world brides seemed a bit out of sorts.
Pissy's refusal to take down the post in question is curious. Either he is confident that for some reason or another Shermer will not go through with an actual confrontation in court, or he is in self-destruct mode.
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I said before, there has to be something more.Hermit wrote:Oh, and I checked a few minutes ago to see if Pustulous Zit Myers had complied with the C&D demand yet. (He hasn't.) The ad in the top left corner said something like this: Why men leave women: 10 fatal mistakes that women make.HomerJay wrote:I thought it was somewhat ironic that the ads were for Chinese bints.
PZ pimping third world brides seemed a bit out of sorts.
Pissy's refusal to take down the post in question is curious. Either he is confident that for some reason or another Shermer will not go through with an actual confrontation in court, or he is in self-destruct mode.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Yeah, he must be confident it is all true and Shermer won't pursue it too hard.
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No love for him, but I'm wary of underestimating him right now.rEvolutionist wrote:Yeah, he must be confident it is all true, and Shermer won't pursue it too hard.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Why?Robert_S wrote:I said before, there has to be something more.Hermit wrote:Oh, and I checked a few minutes ago to see if Pustulous Zit Myers had complied with the C&D demand yet. (He hasn't.) The ad in the top left corner said something like this: Why men leave women: 10 fatal mistakes that women make.HomerJay wrote:I thought it was somewhat ironic that the ads were for Chinese bints.
PZ pimping third world brides seemed a bit out of sorts.
Pissy's refusal to take down the post in question is curious. Either he is confident that for some reason or another Shermer will not go through with an actual confrontation in court, or he is in self-destruct mode.
PZ has demonstrated himself to be fairly unstable and highly ego-driven over the last few years. He is certainly irrational. If his allegations are false, it would not be an unusual development, given how he has behaved over the last few years.
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Just a gut feeling that there's something.
Maybe not more sound, but something should at least seem like a more sound ground for him to stand on.
Maybe not more sound, but something should at least seem like a more sound ground for him to stand on.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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I still doubt it, on the basis that a person is innocent until proven guilty, but also because of the way he changed his story.Robert_S wrote:Just a gut feeling that there's something.
Maybe not more sound, but something should at least seem like a more sound ground for him to stand on.
I think he has completely lost the run of himself.
...and I don't think that mental instability will work as a defence to this.
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I'm not commenting on Shermer's guilt or innocence. I'm talking about the degree to which PZ has lost the plot.Cormac wrote:I still doubt it, on the basis that a person is innocent until proven guilty, but also because of the way he changed his story.Robert_S wrote:Just a gut feeling that there's something.
Maybe not more sound, but something should at least seem like a more sound ground for him to stand on.
I think he has completely lost the run of himself.
...and I don't think that mental instability will work as a defence to this.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: PZ accuses Shermer of rape.
Robert_S wrote:I'm not commenting on Shermer's guilt or innocence. I'm talking about the degree to which PZ has lost the plot.Cormac wrote:I still doubt it, on the basis that a person is innocent until proven guilty, but also because of the way he changed his story.Robert_S wrote:Just a gut feeling that there's something.
Maybe not more sound, but something should at least seem like a more sound ground for him to stand on.
I think he has completely lost the run of himself.
...and I don't think that mental instability will work as a defence to this.
Oh. I misunderstood.
Will you clarify your point for me? I've obviously misconstrued what you said, and am now confused.
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