German exchange student killed. Montana SYG law

[rainbow]

That's too limiting. I think SYG laws in general are absurd.

Self defense is not absurd. SYG laws are.

Ever have someone invade your home and terrorize your family at gunpoint while they steal your stuff?

Yes. I'd still not want SYG laws.

[cronus]

Natural for Germans to want to invade insecure property. Can't really blame a German acting on his cultural instinct?

[Svartalf]

except that guy was a Turk, not a real German.

[cronus]

except that guy was a Turk, not a real German.

He had more to prove than your standard German.

[pErvinalia]

Young Turks..

[tattuchu]

Young Turks..

Young hearts beat freeee tonight, time is ooon your side.

Well, not in this case.

[FBM]

International outcry. Officials demand justice.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/german-offi ... n-montana/

Bad Kaarma.

I knew somebody would beat me to it. Days ago, no less.

[mistermack]

It's funny how the abundance of guns is used to justify the abundance of guns.
And the frequency of killings is used to justify killings.

Only the half-wits across the pond could say it all with a straight face.

[laklak]

Kid was in the garage, not in the house, unless he starts trying to break down the door into the house he isn't posing any threat to the occupants. No way in hell I'm opening a garage door and firing multiple rounds into it without knowing who is in there and what is going on. No way I'm leaving my garage open and unsecured with visible valuables in it.

All this sort of droolingly imbecilic behavior is going to accomplish is to rile up public opinion to the point SYG laws are repealed, which is not something I want to see. They need to put this moron away before he kills someone else over a fucking lawnmower.

Look, someone comes into my house I'm going to waste them, full stop. But I hear someone in my garage I'm calling the cops. There's nothing in there worth their life OR mine. For all this idiot knew there were a couple of gangbangers out there with Uzis. Guy probably just finished "Tactical Takedowns for Dummies", because no one with any sort of training is going to stick a fucking shotgun around the door and start blasting away blindly.

[FBM]

It does reek of someone looking for a reason to kill somebody, dunnit? That was a shit-for-brains tactic from the get-go.

[MrJonno]

Kid was in the garage, not in the house, unless he starts trying to break down the door into the house he isn't posing any threat to the occupants. No way in hell I'm opening a garage door and firing multiple rounds into it without knowing who is in there and what is going on. No way I'm leaving my garage open and unsecured with visible valuables in it.

Damn right you could damage your car and the kid's may have any insurance to pay for it.

Correct procedure is to ask him to step away from the car then shoot him

[Svartalf]

It does reek of someone looking for a reason excuse to kill somebody, dunnit? That was a shit-for-brains tactic from the get-go.

FIFY

[mistermack]

Trayvon Martin was returning home from the shop, when he got killed. The asshole still got off.

This asshole has nothing to worry about.

What it needs is for a Kennedy kid to get shot.

[Seth]

That's too limiting. I think SYG laws in general are absurd.

Self defense is not absurd. SYG laws are.

Ever have someone invade your home and terrorize your family at gunpoint while they steal your stuff?

Yes. I'd still not want SYG laws.

Then don't SYG. But don't try to tell anyone else that they have an obligation to surrender or run away, you have no right to do so.

[Seth]

Natural for Germans to want to invade insecure property. Can't really blame a German acting on his cultural instinct?

Well, maybe we can't blame him, but that doesn't mean the traditional cure for German acquisitiveness isn't appropriate.