PZ accuses Shermer of rape.

[Bella Fortuna]

I am too scared to attend any future Ratz meets, for fear I shall be plied with gin and taken advantage of...

(Tanqueray, please...)

And that's just the blokes.

Heya, good lookin'!

[Thinking Aloud]

I am too scared to attend any future Ratz meets, for fear I shall be plied with gin and taken advantage of...

(Tanqueray, please...)

And that's just the blokes.

Heya, good lookin'!

Hands off - he's MINE.

[Bella Fortuna]

CARDIGANS AT DAWN, SUH!

[Clinton Huxley]

Jim spikes his own drink, the he-slut.

[Cormac]

Carrier is highly likely to find himself joined into that lawsuit.

Here's hoping.

[Cormac]

Heh. I have the chance to interview him.

Carrier or Shermer?

If Carrier, I can think of a few questions...

[Clinton Huxley]

Heh. I have the chance to interview him.

Carrier or Shermer?

If Carrier, I can think of a few questions...

are you still the "intellectual artillery" of Apelust? Ask the beggar that.

[Hermit]

Carrier is highly likely to find himself joined into that lawsuit.

Here's hoping.

If there was to be a lawsuit, it would have been initiated by now. I think there is more to the situation than meets the eye, and that is the reason Myers has not been taken to court.

[Bella Fortuna]

Heh. I have the chance to interview him.

Carrier or Shermer?

If Carrier, I can think of a few questions...

Carrier. But I won't, because I don't want to fuck up this nice opportunity I've been entrusted with. I'll just stick with what will support the festival; this isn't the right place for controversy!

[Cormac]

Carrier is highly likely to find himself joined into that lawsuit.

Here's hoping.

If there was to be a lawsuit, it would have been initiated by now. I think there is more to the situation than meets the eye, and that is the reason Myers has not been taken to court.

Not necessarily.

I'd read absolutely nothing into what little delay there has been as of yet.

[pErvinalia]

They might be lulling Poofter Zit into a false sense of security...

[Coito ergo sum]

Heh. I have the chance to interview him.

Carrier or Shermer?

If Carrier, I can think of a few questions...

are you still the "intellectual artillery" of Apelust? Ask the beggar that.

LOL -- his nickname is "Howitzer Dick" Carrier.

[Coito ergo sum]

PZ Myers has accused Michael Shermer of rape. I’ll make this simple: these allegations are utter balls.

Wait, I hear you cry, should I not be more careful? Is it not the case that this is a he said, she said thing? Are there not cases where accusations of rape should be considered accurate even without forensic evidence? To the last, yes indeed. Let me instance the case of the rape allegations against former US President Bill Clinton. Why do I believe these? To summarize the relevant chapter of No one left to lie to, there were at least three distinct accusations by women who could not possibly have known each other, there was a meticulous investigation of the most famous one, the one of Juanita Broaddrick, and every single detail checked out, we know that the accused had a long habit of sexual predation, we know that the accused had maintained para-legal squad to intimidate inconvenient women, we knew that the accused was a habitual liar, and we know that the charges have never even been addressed and further, that the vice president could not bring himself to say that he did not believe them on the record. We also know that the accusers had very good reason to keep quiet (given what the Hitch calls the power relations of the banana republic of Arkansas – along with other reasons) and that there was no motive on their part to lie. This is what a good standard of circumstantial evidence looks like.

Now let us look at the allegations against Shermer. Has he had a long history of this kind of thing? No. Is Shermer someone with a long history of dishonesty? No. Has there been a meticulous investigation of the accusations? No. Is such an investigation even theoretically possible? No – look at what is being said. Dates, places, times, anything? No. Is Shermer even being allowed to know the name of his accuser? No. Now, let us look at the other side. Does Myers have a long history of dishonesty and malice? Well, yes he does. Does his entire set have such a history likewise? Yes, they do. Is it actually very easy to make such allegations without fear of reprisal? Yes it is: a simple offer of coffee turned into a year long pity fest (bear this one in mind, I will be coming back to it). Is there a strong motive on the FTB crowd to hate Shermer? Well, yes there is. Does Myers go along with the bullying and hammering of inconvenient women – Abbie Smith for example – when they wander off his reservation? Yes he does. Does that entire crowd gleefully throw any muck at those they dislike politically? Yes they do.

- See more at: http://www.skepticink.com/prussian/2013 ... IvXCy.dpuf

[Cormac]

Heh. I have the chance to interview him.

Carrier or Shermer?

If Carrier, I can think of a few questions...

Carrier. But I won't, because I don't want to fuck up this nice opportunity I've been entrusted with. I'll just stick with what will support the festival; this isn't the right place for controversy!

I know how you feel.

[pErvinalia]

Heh. I have the chance to interview him.

Carrier or Shermer?

If Carrier, I can think of a few questions...

Carrier. But I won't, because I don't want to fuck up this nice opportunity I've been entrusted with. I'll just stick with what will support the festival; this isn't the right place for controversy!

I like how you feel.

*sorry, it's late...