PZ accuses Shermer of rape.

[JacksSmirkingRevenge]

[Daedalus]

The question is did she consent to have drinks with him with the foreknowledge it may lead to sex, did he force them down her throat with a funnel, or is she simply retarded. Sex with a retard is always rape as they're never able to consent.

What the fuck are you meaning to imply? Consent to drinks is not consent to sex. Should women take it on the chin if they are raped by someone with whom they'd hitherto been enjoying drinks?

Are men entitled to have sex with any woman who has drinks with them?

No, but consent to sex while voluntarily intoxicated is still consent.

In the USA, it is not from a legal perspective, which you acknowledge in the rest of your rambling post. Given that, the rest is just the usual pontifications that can be dismissed.

[Seth]

The question is did she consent to have drinks with him with the foreknowledge it may lead to sex, did he force them down her throat with a funnel, or is she simply retarded. Sex with a retard is always rape as they're never able to consent.

What the fuck are you meaning to imply? Consent to drinks is not consent to sex. Should women take it on the chin if they are raped by someone with whom they'd hitherto been enjoying drinks?

Are men entitled to have sex with any woman who has drinks with them?

No, but consent to sex while voluntarily intoxicated is still consent.

In the USA, it is not from a legal perspective, which you acknowledge in the rest of your rambling post. Given that, the rest is just the usual pontifications that can be dismissed.

Fallacious appeal to common practice.

Of course it's not legal either in the US or the UK, but that doesn't mean there isn't another side to the story or another argument to be made.

You're just afraid to discuss the subject so you dismiss it with a fallacy.

[Daedalus]

The question is did she consent to have drinks with him with the foreknowledge it may lead to sex, did he force them down her throat with a funnel, or is she simply retarded. Sex with a retard is always rape as they're never able to consent.

What the fuck are you meaning to imply? Consent to drinks is not consent to sex. Should women take it on the chin if they are raped by someone with whom they'd hitherto been enjoying drinks?

Are men entitled to have sex with any woman who has drinks with them?

No, but consent to sex while voluntarily intoxicated is still consent.

In the USA, it is not from a legal perspective, which you acknowledge in the rest of your rambling post. Given that, the rest is just the usual pontifications that can be dismissed.

Fallacious appeal to common practice.

Of course it's not legal either in the US or the UK, but that doesn't mean there isn't another side to the story or another argument to be made.

You're just afraid to discuss the subject so you dismiss it with a fallacy.

Valid appeal to law, since it is a purely legal construction. You're not much of a philosopher from what I can see, so why would anyone want to discuss a more esoteric definition with you?

They wouldn't, that's the answer there.

[Robert_S]

OK, PZ's a little quick on the judgment sometimes, (as most of us know very well) but he's not entirely stupid.

There has to be more information. There has to be something more on its way.

Why does there have to be?

He didn't hesitate to declare that everyone on Rationalia is a rape promoter.

He is a jackass, and I for one hope that this accusation is false, and that he ends up being bankrupted for it. I despise him.

I agree he's a jackass. I got no love for him and his hoard consists of some of the most vile and hateful people around ("Die in a fire", "Here's a dead porcupine for to stick up your arse"). But can he be that much of a self destructive fucktard? It strains my credulity.

I don't hope for any outcome here. If it was true, then someone got raped. If it isn't true, then the next victim around these parts will have a harder time being believed.

[Audley Strange]

PZombie and Titbelt have both pointed out in the past that they have had false rape claims made against them. According to the doctrine of the First Church of Atheism I should automatically believe the accuser. In fact if the comments at his tentacle fetish, trauma triggering, Bundyesque website are anything to go by recently, there is claim that the filthy Cthulhu cultist and idiot actually raped someone. Now it could be a troll, but by his own standards we should consider him a danger to women. Which I consider him anyway. I said that long ago.

As much as I might come across angry from time to time, I'm generally not vindictive. However I will take great satisfaction in seeing that fucker and his coterie of cunts ruined. P.Z. Myers is not Great. He Poisons Everything.

[Cormac]

OK, PZ's a little quick on the judgment sometimes, (as most of us know very well) but he's not entirely stupid.

There has to be more information. There has to be something more on its way.

Why does there have to be?

He didn't hesitate to declare that everyone on Rationalia is a rape promoter.

He is a jackass, and I for one hope that this accusation is false, and that he ends up being bankrupted for it. I despise him.

I agree he's a jackass. I got no love for him and his hoard consists of some of the most vile and hateful people around ("Die in a fire", "Here's a dead porcupine for to stick up your arse"). But can he be that much of a self destructive fucktard? It strains my credulity.

I don't hope for any outcome here. If it was true, then someone got raped. If it isn't true, then the next victim around these parts will have a harder time being believed.

With your last statement, I agree wholeheartedly.

However, I'd put nothing past Pee Zed's scruples. He is a gangrenous scrote.

[JacksSmirkingRevenge]

PZombie and Titbelt have both pointed out in the past that they have had false rape claims made against them. According to the doctrine of the First Church of Atheism I should automatically believe the accuser. In fact if the comments at his tentacle fetish, trauma triggering, Bundyesque website are anything to go by recently, there is claim that the filthy Cthulhu cultist and idiot actually raped someone. Now it could be a troll, but by his own standards we should consider him a danger to women. Which I consider him anyway. I said that long ago.

As much as I might come across angry from time to time, I'm generally not vindictive. However I will take great satisfaction in seeing that fucker and his coterie of cunts ruined. P.Z. Myers is not Great. He Poisons Everything.

Man, sometimes you are a fucking joy to read.

[Audley Strange]

Sincerely, thank you. However as FBM has pointed out sometimes I'm a fucking nightmare to even understand.

I blame sobriety for that.

[Robert_S]

OK, PZ's a little quick on the judgment sometimes, (as most of us know very well) but he's not entirely stupid.

There has to be more information. There has to be something more on its way.

Why does there have to be?

He didn't hesitate to declare that everyone on Rationalia is a rape promoter.

He is a jackass, and I for one hope that this accusation is false, and that he ends up being bankrupted for it. I despise him.

I agree he's a jackass. I got no love for him and his hoard consists of some of the most vile and hateful people around ("Die in a fire", "Here's a dead porcupine for to stick up your arse"). But can he be that much of a self destructive fucktard? It strains my credulity.

I don't hope for any outcome here. If it was true, then someone got raped. If it isn't true, then the next victim around these parts will have a harder time being believed.

With your last statement, I agree wholeheartedly.

Yoda, you stop using the force to make a sock puppets of my friends this instant!!!

However, I'd put nothing past Pee Zed's scruples. He is a gangrenous scrote.

I'm not going to defend his character, but I will say that I find it hard to believe that there isn't more than what he's saying here that made it look like a good idea on some level to post that. It isn't like he's stepping on an obscure little forum with less than 100 active posters.

[Audley Strange]

Confidence Robert, well blind arrogant hubris. If 30 people corroborated that story it is still hearsay and libellous. How do I know it is libellous (malicious intent etc) well all one has to do is look at the hate campaign he and his coterie of cunts have had on the go for Shermer Krauss et all for the last couple of years.

Let's face it, if Krauss or Shermer decide to proceed litigation against him, he and FTB are Dodos. Good.

[Robert_S]

PZombie and Titbelt have both pointed out in the past that they have had false rape claims made against them. According to the doctrine of the First Church of Atheism I should automatically believe the accuser. In fact if the comments at his tentacle fetish, trauma triggering, Bundyesque website are anything to go by recently, there is claim that the filthy Cthulhu cultist and idiot actually raped someone. Now it could be a troll, but by his own standards we should consider him a danger to women. Which I consider him anyway. I said that long ago.

As much as I might come across angry from time to time, I'm generally not vindictive. However I will take great satisfaction in seeing that fucker and his coterie of cunts ruined. P.Z. Myers is not Great. He Poisons Everything.

Yes, further up the thread I recounted my encounter with that. I know of a woman that accused all three of the boyfriends she had when I was acquainted with her of raping her. She did it so casually, so very much exactly like an attention whore dropping celebrity names...

I also happen to know of several rapes that have gone unreported.

[Robert_S]

Confidence Robert, well blind arrogant hubris. If 30 people corroborated that story it is still hearsay and libellous. How do I know it is libellous (malicious intent etc) well all one has to do is look at the hate campaign he and his coterie of cunts have had on the go for Shermer Krauss et all for the last couple of years.

Let's face it, if Krauss or Shermer decide to proceed litigation against him, he and FTB are Dodos. Good.

It would be startling hubris, even by PZ standards.

[DaveD]

Myers has standards?

[Robert_S]

Myers has standards?

And banners as well.