PZ accuses Shermer of rape.

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Re: PZ accuses Shermer of rape.

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:29 pm

Thinking Aloud wrote:That also implies that Shermer knows who the accuser is, which is at odds with her apparent desire not to reveal her identity to him for fear that "he will come after me in some way." So either it's progressed legally far further than we're aware, or someone somewhere isn't very good at keeping secrets.

(Or I've not been paying attention, and all this has been covered previously.)
Or the woman in question has made this kind of allegation before - perhaps even to Shermer himself? Who knows?

Besides, unless Michael Shermer is every bit the glass-filling conference-stalking, serial rapist that Plague Zebra accuses him of being, it shouldn't be difficult for him to narrow down his encounters at conferences and identify which event may have given rise to the claims.
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Re: PZ accuses Shermer of rape.

Post by Thinking Aloud » Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:32 pm

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
Thinking Aloud wrote:That also implies that Shermer knows who the accuser is, which is at odds with her apparent desire not to reveal her identity to him for fear that "he will come after me in some way." So either it's progressed legally far further than we're aware, or someone somewhere isn't very good at keeping secrets.

(Or I've not been paying attention, and all this has been covered previously.)
Or the woman in question has made this kind of allegation before - perhaps even to Shermer himself? Who knows?

Besides, unless Michael Shermer is every bit the glass-filling conference-stalking, serial rapist that Plague Zebra accuses him of being, it shouldn't be difficult for him to narrow down his encounters at conferences and identify which event may have given rise to the claims.
In which case, she was supremely naïve to think that telling PZ would somehow keep her identity from him. :dunno:

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Re: PZ accuses Shermer of rape.

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:39 pm

Thinking Aloud wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
Thinking Aloud wrote:That also implies that Shermer knows who the accuser is, which is at odds with her apparent desire not to reveal her identity to him for fear that "he will come after me in some way." So either it's progressed legally far further than we're aware, or someone somewhere isn't very good at keeping secrets.

(Or I've not been paying attention, and all this has been covered previously.)
Or the woman in question has made this kind of allegation before - perhaps even to Shermer himself? Who knows?

Besides, unless Michael Shermer is every bit the glass-filling conference-stalking, serial rapist that Plague Zebra accuses him of being, it shouldn't be difficult for him to narrow down his encounters at conferences and identify which event may have given rise to the claims.
In which case, she was supremely naïve to think that telling PZ would somehow keep her identity from him. :dunno:
Or knowingly manipulative? Or knowingly manipulated?
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Re: PZ accuses Shermer of rape.

Post by Thinking Aloud » Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:41 pm

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
Thinking Aloud wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
Thinking Aloud wrote:That also implies that Shermer knows who the accuser is, which is at odds with her apparent desire not to reveal her identity to him for fear that "he will come after me in some way." So either it's progressed legally far further than we're aware, or someone somewhere isn't very good at keeping secrets.

(Or I've not been paying attention, and all this has been covered previously.)
Or the woman in question has made this kind of allegation before - perhaps even to Shermer himself? Who knows?

Besides, unless Michael Shermer is every bit the glass-filling conference-stalking, serial rapist that Plague Zebra accuses him of being, it shouldn't be difficult for him to narrow down his encounters at conferences and identify which event may have given rise to the claims.
In which case, she was supremely naïve to think that telling PZ would somehow keep her identity from him. :dunno:
Or knowingly manipulative? Or knowingly manipulated?
Who knows?

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Re: PZ accuses Shermer of rape.

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Thinking Aloud wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
Thinking Aloud wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
Thinking Aloud wrote:That also implies that Shermer knows who the accuser is, which is at odds with her apparent desire not to reveal her identity to him for fear that "he will come after me in some way." So either it's progressed legally far further than we're aware, or someone somewhere isn't very good at keeping secrets.

(Or I've not been paying attention, and all this has been covered previously.)
Or the woman in question has made this kind of allegation before - perhaps even to Shermer himself? Who knows?

Besides, unless Michael Shermer is every bit the glass-filling conference-stalking, serial rapist that Plague Zebra accuses him of being, it shouldn't be difficult for him to narrow down his encounters at conferences and identify which event may have given rise to the claims.
In which case, she was supremely naïve to think that telling PZ would somehow keep her identity from him. :dunno:
Or knowingly manipulative? Or knowingly manipulated?
Who knows?
Not me. :dunno:
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Post by Bella Fortuna » Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:47 pm

Glad we've ironed that out. :hehe:
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Re: PZ accuses Shermer of rape.

Post by Pappa » Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:12 pm

Thinking Aloud wrote:That also implies that Shermer knows who the accuser is, which is at odds with her apparent desire not to reveal her identity to him for fear that "he will come after me in some way." So either it's progressed legally far further than we're aware, or someone somewhere isn't very good at keeping secrets.

(Or I've not been paying attention, and all this has been covered previously.)
If you read the letter from Shermer's lawyer to PZ, it outlines how they know who PZ was referring to in his original claim.

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Post by DaveD » Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:22 am

Carrier is still being a twat (no surprise), this time on Facebook:
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See how quickly "if" is escalated to "when".
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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:46 am

When is the suing going to start?
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Re: PZ accuses Shermer of rape.

Post by Thinking Aloud » Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:43 am

Pappa wrote:
Thinking Aloud wrote:That also implies that Shermer knows who the accuser is, which is at odds with her apparent desire not to reveal her identity to him for fear that "he will come after me in some way." So either it's progressed legally far further than we're aware, or someone somewhere isn't very good at keeping secrets.

(Or I've not been paying attention, and all this has been covered previously.)
If you read the letter from Shermer's lawyer to PZ, it outlines how they know who PZ was referring to in his original claim.
See? Not paying attention. :shiver:

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Re: PZ accuses Shermer of rape.

Post by pErvinalia » Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:47 am

I don't think that's entirely accurate. The letter I saw was referring to the intermediary between the alleged victim and PZ. The alleged victim hasn't been named yet.
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Re: PZ accuses Shermer of rape.

Post by Thinking Aloud » Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:58 am

rEvolutionist wrote:I don't think that's entirely accurate. The letter I saw was referring to the intermediary between the alleged victim and PZ. The alleged victim hasn't been named yet.
Oh yes - the reference to "Carrie" (the intermediary, I think) who appeared in PZ's original blog, but was edited out. I guess it's possible Shermer's team could work it out from that though.

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Re: PZ accuses Shermer of rape.

Post by JimC » Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:54 am

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Re: PZ accuses Shermer of rape.

Post by Thinking Aloud » Tue Aug 27, 2013 10:01 am

JimC wrote:I am too scared to attend any future Ratz meets, for fear I shall be plied with gin and taken advantage of...

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Re: PZ accuses Shermer of rape.

Post by JimC » Tue Aug 27, 2013 10:04 am

Thinking Aloud wrote:
JimC wrote:I am too scared to attend any future Ratz meets, for fear I shall be plied with gin and taken advantage of...

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